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The issue i have is that you never proposed this idea to the league before blasting it out to slack. I think the lack of response is enough answer that the league is not in favor of the proposal. Crickets on every suggestion so far, maybe the league needs a shot of RedBull or something. If we want this league to continue, we need active managers, not spectators. We also need to fill 3 teams.
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PART 2: What has worked for me in the past in getting new owners is having owners recruit their friends. Yes, some teams get randomly claimed, and you can post openings in the Ottoneu community. But getting people you know has worked best for me because they tend not to quit - keeping the league stable. Anyway, just my opinion. I'll go along with what the majority wants.
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PART 1: Hey guys - I am one of the new owners. I have played for over 30 years, play in four Ottoneu leagues and am the commissioner of one of them. We are in a bit of a spot but it's not nothing we can't figure out. While the new commish came in a bit hot for a brand new owner I very much appreciate his zeal for getting the conversation started. My opinion is that lowering the costs of some of the bad contracts on the abandoned teams might be the best way to draw in new ownership.
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Look guys I am 73 and just want to play. Whatever you decide is fine by me
2112 on
February 3, 2021 8:05 AM
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Revising:
Rosters are NOT redistributed in their entirety. If drafters determine that a $13 Torkelson to expensive, he will be dropped to the auction pool. Same with the $51 Sale. Owners can draft 0-40 players based on their preference.
Please elaborate on how we would determine which players to adjust salaries for and the impact on the overall league dynamics and why this is preferred to a dispersion.
We are all just assessing options, nothing has been decided.
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Rosters are redistributed in their entirety. If drafters determine that a $13 Torkelson isn't a reasonable price, then he will just be dropped to the auction pool. Same with the $51 Sale. Owners can draft 0-40 players based on their preference.
Please elaborate on how we would determine which players to adjust salaries for and the impact on the overall league dynamics and why this is preferred to a dispersion.
We are all just assessing options, nothing ha
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"I am opposed to this dispersion draft and I vote to remove the new owner from the role of commissioner immediately."
@WhamBam: What what did I say that was so inflammatory? The other owners have simply been trying to understand the parameters of a dispersion draft and nothing has been determined?
Help us understand your statement about: "Leaving the high cost players will just redistribute the roster and keep the same issue alive, the team
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In a dispersion, Leaving the high cost players will just redistribute the roster and keep the same issue alive, the teams will still suck.
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I have never had any issue filling teams in a league and have run dynasty leagues for over 20 years. The best way to make the teams attractive is to adjust the salaries of the overpriced players down to at least the average of the cost in other ottoneu leagues. This helps them both not have to drop the best players but also gives then reasonable assets to trade mid season to rebuild. It will result in a much more balanced league.
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I am opposed to this dispersion draft and I vote to remove the new owner from the role of commissioner immediately
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4. All 12 teams participate in the league's auction draft.
Essentially the dispersion draft allows for interested owners to add assets of their choosing and balance out the rebuilding teams.
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Dispersion Draft Concept:
1. Players currently rostered by all 3 abandoned teams go to a pool of players: List @ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PwGb2P6z4QUKOxFlAoIfXLsMUvXm_TGo/view?usp=sharing
2. Owners recruited to fill the 3 open spots participate in a slow offline snake draft and pick from those available players until they don't want any of the available players.
3. Undrafted players from this player pool are released penalty free.
4. All 12 teams participate
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2) then protect an amount of players on our team (like when they do an expansion draft in the NHL or MLB). The non-protected players could be available to build the 3rd team and make it also attractive to a new owner. I hope I didn't give you guys a headache....lol
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1) Sorry but I'm a little bit confused here, usually I'm pretty quick to understand stuff, how would this this dispersal work out? Do you mean spreading the assets from the three teams onto the 9 existing teams? Is it us putting some attrative players from our teams in these abandonned teams? I sure don't agree with the suggestion that a new owner would pick from all three teams to build his, but if you twist that a little bit, we could build two attractive teams to lure two new owners
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Thats contigent on getting 3 new members
I just signed up begin of Jan and 2 others followed me.. This is only
My second yr but ive found in the past the closer it gets to opening day the harder it is to fill a team. What is the plan if only one owner signs up? Do they take over an abandon team or select roster from all 3?
HELLS⚡️BELLS on
February 2, 2021 2:48 PM
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I entered all of the assets from these 3 teams into one file. The values are from Vibber's surplus calculator.
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1PwGb2P6z4QUKOxFlAoIfXLsMUvXm_TGo/view?usp=sharing
Shaking my head at a $13 Torkelson, but to each their own.
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I think a snake style dispersal draft is the way to go. I also agree with Yellowhammer that it’s hard to completely avoid starting behind other owners when you pick up an abandoned squad. I would think part of the fun with these dynasty type leagues is the rebuild as well so hopefully that can be an angle.
Outlaws on
February 2, 2021 1:44 PM
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I have participated in a dispersal draft before and it helped to draw me into the league where the open teams were pretty crappy. The players with any value are picked up by the new owners with any undrafted players going into the auction pool. It did help spread the available talent between the open teams so you don't end up with one or two teams that just don't have anyone worth keeping. There's no way to avoid these new owners starting in a hole...this just makes the hole slightly less deep.
Yellowhammer on
February 2, 2021 1:20 PM
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Moving forward, we need the league to agree on a plan to fill the 3 open teams and this entails determining how to make them attractive.
Personally I think a dispersion draft (slow snake draft from a pool of assets from those squads) will excite prospective owners. They pick until no one wants to roster players and their current salaries.
We then move forward and set an auction date for two weeks before the start of the season due to the fact that opening day is in flux.
🐉🗡️The Asha’man🗡️🐉 on
February 2, 2021 1:10 PM
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Hey fellas. I apologize if my attempt to be proactive was viewed as a coup. Not sure if you guys got my email yesterday afternoon.
I had reached out to Napalm and he asked for help so I solicited suggestions from the Ottoneu experts and they suggested a dispersion draft (vs. salary adjustments only).
The truth is, we have 3 teams to fill and no one will want to pay $20 for one of the existing teams when we have squads with $550 of value rostered. The good news is th
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3 of 3 Sorry.....Or three of us takeover one team but can't trade with our other team to avoid collusion (that's a weird one but it could work), I would volunteer to pay up for Abandoned...anyway that was my two cents in the discussion. Have a nice day (ggod news...baseball is suppose to start on time...yahooo)
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2 of 2 ..... But either way, it's going to be hard finding new owners if the teams are empty (no perfect solution I guess), I wouldn't mind taking over Abandoned and try to find three new owners for next year with an empty team. (that
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1 of 2 - I think only one of those three could still lure somebody to claim it (Abandoned), I would if I wasn't already in the league. So that leaves us with two not attractive teams. We could pay up the 60$ missing divided by 9 if that's an issue with Ottoneu so we would be legit on the $$ side of it, then empty the teams and all players become available at draft or we do a special draft for those players (snake style).......
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3 orphan teams are alot.. have had a few leagues where there has been dispersal draft.. dont know how auction would be handled i guess they draft based on price.. id prefer just the message board here
HELLS⚡️BELLS on
February 2, 2021 7:20 AM
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Hey all. Let’s try to keep it civil. I think we all share the same goal of making sure we get new owners that will be engaged in the league and make it fun. Let’s work toward that end. So one idea floated is a dispersal draft. A second idea, I believe is to adjust salaries on these teams so they become more attractive. I’m all for getting creative to lure new owners. Also, looks like all existing owners are renewed, so thank you all for that. Thoughts?
Napalm Bombs on
February 2, 2021 7:16 AM
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Hey New Guy/Commissioner. The league has not even heard your idea for filling the 3 teams. Why are you posting on slack without checking with the owners of the league. I am not ok with a dispersion draft or whatever you call it, not sure if anyone else will be either, but you can't join a league and 2 days later act like you own the place.
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Actually, the site has a ambiguous grace period of unknown length before expired teams can be claimed. The focus needs to be on filling the 3 empty teams. That said, RENEW YOUR TEAMS PEOPLE. This is the least responsive of 5 leagues i play in
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Renew your teams ASAP. The deadline was yesterday and all non-renewed teams can be claimed. I'm paid up.
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I'm on most of the day and looking to make deals. If you're interested high end pitchers or MI, please bring your best offers...because everyone is after them. Email or text is easiest. Check the trade block for my info.
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Anyone need a catcher? i have Grandal and Kirk on the block, available at a reasonable cost and there is nothing much available in the auction pool yet
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I am back
2112 on
January 30, 2021 12:52 PM
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Hey Fellas, I just picked up a dead team and am ready to clean it up. Hit me up with trade ideas as this squad is at least a year away from competing.
Do we use GroupMe for league chats by any chance?
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i found one new owner, Papi and Daggers
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It's the afternoon on 1/29...where does this league stand? The Dashboard is showing 4 available teams. Do we think we'll fill those before 1/31? Are we going to carry on and assume we'll find someone after the cut deadline? After all, we as a league can offer a new owner one-time free cuts after 1/31. I'm willing to keep it going but wondered where we stood at this moment.
Yellowhammer on
January 29, 2021 2:52 PM
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Me again, trying to fill another league with our commish, we are missing one owner in another league I'm in. If interested, please go to CLAIM on your dashboard, the league name is SUMMER CLASSIC, the team is Sanski Most at 75$, Old school 5 x 5, alloc system, lineups weekly (Yelich, Rendon, Mondesi, C. Seager, Soler, Hoskins, D'Arnaud, Darvish, Price, Taillon, Davies, Freeland, E. Hernandez, K. Jansen, and many more HURRY UP BEFORE JANUARY 31
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I'm still in.
Yellowhammer on
January 24, 2021 5:58 PM
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I think this league has potential with some new owners that want to make it work and be active, which is great. But we need to actively and aggressively try to fill our open spots - and I don’t feel like that has been happening. I commish an Ottoneu league where I had to replace 9 of the 12 owners last year, and it took some work. So let’s get after it, recruit some owners and keep this league alive everyone!
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I’m paid up. Let’s go everyone!
Outlaws on
January 24, 2021 12:59 PM
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Done, c'mon guys stay in and pay up
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Paying up today
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I’m paying up today.
Napalm Bombs on
January 24, 2021 6:18 AM
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There at least 3 dead teams right now and 2 of the new owners are also on the fence. Atlas, Abandoned and Jeff&Fred are needing new owners. With the lack of activity or efforts to fill the league, I am on the fence to renew.
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I just signed up and will pay fee this weekend
HELLS⚡️BELLS on
January 23, 2021 10:05 AM
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How many owners in this league and paid up so I can decide to stay in or not ?
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Welcome to the league Chupacabra's!!
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Hi everyone just picked up this team. Last yr was my 1st yr doing Ottoneu.. I have loads of SS.. would like to move .. ill update trade block later
HELLS⚡️BELLS on
January 20, 2021 10:44 AM
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Looks like you missed my message from Saturday--I am abandoning as well.
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Hey guys, let's get those trade blocks updated. Half of them are from last season. It's hard to know what you want with old trade blocks with players who are on other teams now.
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Hey everyone - new owner here. New team name pending. I’ve been doing Ottoneu for years, prefer 5x5 and am very active. I think this will be a good league. We just need a couple more owners but that shouldn’t be a problem since the rosters of the open teams are pretty strong - I had a tough time deciding. Now let’s trade!
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Hopefully we get new owners right away and the next 3 weeks have a lot of trade activity
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