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Great!! Thanks Evan - If you just wanna post your increases like the example below on the message boards I’ll make the allocations on your behalf
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I have! I have been around ottoneu for pretty close to a decade. I can get a list together and send it over later today.
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Hi Evan, Welcome to the Mendoza league. Glad to you have. I realize this is a bit unorthodox but I wanted to give you the chance to participate in Arbitration for your team since the previous owner quit at the end of the season. Have you done arb before?
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Howdy everyone! My name is Evan, glad to be here. Going to be open for business shortly, so shoot me a message if you want to talk trade.
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Thank you @BEN and @JOE for your quick responses. Adjustments have been made
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Ok, gotcha.
Here's what I got:
El Segundo: Judge-$1, Machado-$1, Valdez-$1
Super Seiya: Yodan-$1, Julio-$1, Alcantra-$1
Han Soto: Cease-$2
Jesus: Gimenez-$1, Castillo-$1
Optimism: Williams-$1
MLBType: Severino-$1, Arraez-$1
Trout: Arenado-$1
Bell: Verlander-$2
Dazzling: Rutschman-$3
Bo: Urias-$3
Zephyrs: Schwarber-$1, Kirk-$1, Pena-$1
Nola Tengo on
November 15, 2022 11:07 PM
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You have $25 to spend total
You just give each team atleast $1
You can spend no more than $3 on each team
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In some cases he only gave a single dollar. If you want to type up a list of your allocations similar to joes I can manually increase the players of your choosing
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Hey Ben - understand it’s your first year in Ottoneu. we have something something called arbitration which takes place right after the season with about 4 weeks to complete. Each year you have $25 to raise the salaries of players on the other 11 teams. You must raise the salary on one player on each team by at-least 1 dollar. You can only spend a max of 3 dollars per team. Look at joes written example below. He gave $3 to Julio on my team and on other teams split up that 3 across several players
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Wait, what are we doing here?
Nola Tengo on
November 15, 2022 7:34 PM
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Thanks Joe - Ben if I don’t hear back by the end of tomorrow we will move forward.
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Sorry all. I really thought the 16th for some reason so I thought I had one more day. Here's what I got though:
Super Seiya: Julio - $3
Segundo: Judge - $1, Strider - $2
Aguilar: Gimenez - $1, Goldy - $1
Optimistic: Vinnie - $1
PWord: Harris - $3
Trout's Neck: Altuve - $1
Bell: Verlander - $1
Gents: Adley - $2, Greene - $1
Bo: Devers - $1, Eloy - $2
Nola: Gunnar - $2
BRZ: Schwarber - $2, Lowe - $1
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For the sake of league integrity, two owners missed arb. Ben Hendricks this was your first time in ottoneu so no worries. If you would like to allocate to other teams please post in this chat by end of today. @JoeTenglia please do the same. I know you just missed the date by mistake and wanted to allocate. Please post your allocations here - If any other teams have issue with a 1 time allowance let me know. You each have $25 and must allocate at least $1 to every team.
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I'm still somewhat optimistic - i just didn't count on 4 long time guys to back out. It's NOV and no one cares about baseball right now just I think there is still some hope here.
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I'm still on the message boards and slack looking for 3 new owners. It's a challenge. Will keep ya'll posted. There are a lot of leagues seemingly in the same boat. I've probably come across 30-40 different messages thus far where leagues are looking for replacements. Tuff time a year to find replacements. Will keep it up but can't promise anything. We may have to move through ARB without those teams allocating - if we are sitting in in JAN with no progress we may need to consider folding.
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I’m sorry I got very busy towards the end of the season. I think it will be good to have consecutive years with the same rules. I think there was just an adjustment period of understanding this format.
Nola Tengo on
October 28, 2022 12:31 PM
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For what it's worth, I always do arb late in the window (but always get it done). I'll definitely work on cuts (and trades! Seriously, I was the Dipoto of Mendoza somehow) and am fine with the same scoring format.
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All good! I didn’t hear it that way. It’s fair to being the question up bc engagement is what makes the leagues fun and if that is a consistent struggle it’s fair to ask how much individuals really care about this. Hopefully we’ll get into full gear but if not the question is beyond fair and a decision would have to be made on continuing.
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I certainly mean no personal criticism, and I appreciate the positive outlook.
Cuban B on
October 28, 2022 12:19 PM
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Totally understandable. We have 3 teams still available actually. Those 3 players leaving were somewhat surprising to me. 2 of them have been in our league for a decade. We can commit to the same scoring system. Tuff time a year to get new owners but I am trying. Most of the teams here are all friends so I can reach out to make sure arb happens. Still have a few weeks there.
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The lack of enthusiasm here is not encouraging. Five teams look solid but four owners are gone, and three others not participating in arbitration, and doubts about the scoring format next year. Will Mendoza Baseball be back next season? For me, I would like 12 owners making keeper cuts in January and a commitment to the same scoring system used this year. Anybody else on the fence?
Cuban B on
October 28, 2022 12:03 PM
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Still figuring out this owner sitch. For those of you who are new make sure to get your arbitration bids in over the next 4 weeks to raise teams salaries.
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Can...can I switch????
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I have confirmed the following teams will need to be replaced:
Mike Trouts Neck Circumference
Ryan's Dazzling Gents
Team Bell
Nilbog Freaks
Feel free to reach out to anyone you know who may be interested. I will also post on the message boards. Ideally it would be nice to get these spots filled sometime during Arb so they can participate.
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I agree with that perspective. My one real qualm with it was halfway through the year several of us were thousands of points ahead which felt strange. Not saying that doesn't happen in H2H or roto. I just imagine several owners just were like well i have 0 chance now so i give up.
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I will say one thing I like about points is if someone checks out, it didn't impact teams that were still trying. You scored points (or lost them, in some cases) regardless of whether someone was competing still or not. I hated the H2H matchups with people who checked out because they could get lucky and destroy you because they players they started 2 months ago go off that week, which seems less fair. Def prefer whatever keeps most teams engaged, but points has potential I think.
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What scoring system do you prefer going forward?
https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScAqllybb8RToEMyW6LSHn5r7ygieYTTZezBavsHlXWgvFlPw/viewform?usp=sf_link
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Yeah I am all down to keep things the same but was curious about people's opinion on a vote. It was my first year doing points and i think that was true for others too so i was curious to see how people liked it or not lol
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Conversely, it also kind of rocked when you'd see you had net 10 points or something and your hitters had 50 points but then a pitcher have up 3HR in 2IP and scored -35. That was always kind of a funny thing. And the elation you feel when you bench a -35 point start.
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Nice job, Dan! I was talking to BoBB about this Tuesday, and while I'm not a huge fan of the points system, it did rule when I'd check the scores and see, like, 45 points by Goldy's name lol
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A couple of things to cover as we head into the off-season.
1. We had 4 teams that really stopped participating very early on - I'll need to figure if those guys would like to continue to play.
2. I personally would be in-favor of changing the league scoring settings to one of the other options. Something felt flat about just racking up points alone. I was thinking of having a poll to see how people felt. Happy to stay the same.
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Great job, Dan!
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Congrats to El Segundo. Well Done.
Cuban B on
October 6, 2022 9:26 AM
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Def Goldyfinger
Nola Tengo on
August 27, 2022 8:03 PM
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I wholeheartedly support Goldyfinger
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Now that Win Butter has been outed as a Sex Pest, should I change my team name to Baderfinger or Goldyfinger?
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I like it. Agree with WTK that I like matchups better. I will say how one of the things I liked best about points leagues in other platforms is that there are broader aspects of the game that you can allow scoring for that roto and category leagues don’t allow (points for complete games, grand slams, negative points for errors, etc) which make it kinda fun, but those aren’t allowable in Ottoneu anyway so I’d probably lean more toward H2H categories again next year.
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Word - would love to keep this convo going. Realistically it wouldn't be to tough to change the scoring system if people don't like it. I may have to start a new league in the offseason and import the rosters but yeah. I'm curious to hear a variety of input from everyone. I wonder if 4 of the members who stoppped playing entirely got discouraged by the points system as well.
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Points are harder to conceptualize how you're doing, for sure. But there's stuff if you take a step back that shows the opportunity to be more competitve than you think. For example, me and Seiya are the only two teams above 10K, but we've also in the top of innings pitched and games played per position, so we've just taken more opportunities to get points. Eventually, those will run out unless we start pacing ourselves; either way, those with more innings and games left have time to catch up
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I really like this league but yeah, not a fan of the point system. It’s deflating to have -14 when a pitcher gives up a home run.
Like, one situation I had that I thought was weird was I had 2 guys throw 7 innings 1 run, one guy got 13ks and the other had 6ks. But the guy with 13ks gave up a HR so the guy with 6ks ended up with more points.
I also miss RBIs and Runs. Call me old fashioned, and maybe it’s because I’m a DFS player, but weird to not have those be a facto
Nola Tengo on
July 12, 2022 1:45 PM
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Overall I really like it. One thing about just total points and no head-to-head is it feels like I got locked in about 8th place pretty early on and I almost certainly won't catch those ahead of me and won't be caught by those behind me...in some ways it's most fair bc you just get rewarded for your overall points situation, but having a weekly matchup or something certainly adds excitement and can help keep someone in it, or provide the possibility of moving around the standings a bit more.
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I'm just genuinely curious how people are enjoying this league? Do people like points? I find it slightly confusing, honestly. I've also noticed a number of teams that quit a while ago. Just curious if people actually wanna do this?
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It’s all system automated. If you cut a player for 20 bucks you get 10 bucks back and 10 in pentalty. let’s say and he clears waivers and is re-auction for his min salary for 10 dollars. When another team when’s him they now pay his 10 and your 10 cap goes away. Does that kinda make sense?
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Ohh okay. I didn’t realize that! Thanks!
Nola Tengo on
June 18, 2022 8:07 PM
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The penalty goes away if someone else picks the player up
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The $9 penalty you had for Franimal went to BRZ when they won that auction. Is that it? We've had a lot of auction flips as of late.
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Lol. What do you mean?
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Am I crazy or did some of us get some extra salary out of nowhere?
Nola Tengo on
June 18, 2022 8:00 PM
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FWIW, because I just did this: There's some strategy to re-auctioning players you've cut, too. I had Kwang Hyun Kim for $5 or something, then he signed with the KBO. I cut him and incurred a $3 penalty. I re-auctioned him after 30 days (yesterday), won, and cut him *again*, giving me a $2 penalty. The original $3 penalty is erased, meaning I gave myself an extra $1 in cap space. Probably won't matter, ever, but you can save some significant $$$ if you cut someone expensive (looking at you, Ynoa)
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ahhh, that makes sense now. thanks!
Nola Tengo on
May 3, 2022 10:58 PM
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