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Correction: Deadline is at 11:59 pm Eastern Time tonight. Sorry, too used to converting East Coast to West Coast time.
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I still see 2 teams have not renewed. Last reminder to everyone that today is the cut deadline and deadline to pay your $20 fee for the 2023 season. If the fee is not paid by 8:59 pm Eastern Time tonight, Ottoneu's administration will automatically abandon your team and it will be posted for another player to claim and pay the fees. The deadline to cut players is also 8:59 pm Eastern Time tonight. Anyone on your roster as of 8:59 pm will remain there through the completion of the auction draft.
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Reminder that the keeper deadline and the deadline to renew your team (i.e. pay the fee for the upcoming season) is January 31. Also remember that rosters are locked after the keeper deadline through the draft, so if you want to get trades done, get them done before January 31.
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Good reminding! Extended Les Expos through 2024.
Chicago Socks on
January 5, 2023 9:30 PM
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Hi everyone...A couple of reminders:. First, cut down day is January 31. Your roster as of February 1 will be your roster going through not the auction.
Second, it looks like 3 teams have renewed/paid for the 2023 season. If you are not paid by January 31, on February 1, the system will put your team on the Expired Team list that others can claim and pay for. Pay your team fee in advance so you do not inadvertently lose your team.
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Thanks all! Great season, I think this is the third now that I've been in the league. Been competitive all the way through. Happy playoffs/offseason to all who celebrate.
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Congratulations to MB! Very well played!
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Way to go, Biscuits!
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Congratulations to Montgomery Biscuits on winning the championship.
Quasi Muto on
October 5, 2022 8:30 PM
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Hello all. Updated the Pizzas trade block. Probably checked out for
this year. Willing to keep salary. Would also buy you a beer at the Wilco concert meet up.
Nola Day on
June 14, 2022 11:43 PM
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The Eury Perez on waivers is not the real Eury Perez. He doesn't know he's not the real Eury Perez, but now you do.
Quasi Muto on
May 3, 2022 10:50 PM
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Oh man. Or listen to his album front to back and let us know which song affected you the most.
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New Idea: last place at the all star break has to listen to an episode of Joe West's podcast and provide a detailed summary.
Bunt Cake on
April 25, 2022 1:14 PM
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The other consideration I provided was for anyone who wants to to either vote yes or no on the trade. I provided that because it is in the rules and is the one way for a trade to get voided under the rules. One thing I will not do is void a trade on my own as the Commish either because I think its a really bad trade or there's support for it but not enough to get it vetoed. Such action by the Commish is not in the rules and I would not unilaterally take it. It's my goal to stay neutral.
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So I attempted to pass along information about a podcast with one of the Ottoneu founders where he was ok with it. Perhaps I could have phrased that better that he viewed it as a legitimate strategy. That being said, every legitimate strategy can be used improperly which is what I meant about each trade needing to be judged on its own facts. Beyond that, I suggested creating a topic in the Ottoneu community to get feedback from other players and probably Niv, who created this game.
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It seems my comments may have ruffled some feathers. Just to be clear, I made my comments as the Commissioner of this league. In that role, I have to try to stay as neutral as possible because my words could carry more influence. Regardless of whether I say there is or is not a problem, some will see it as improperly trying to influence the league as the Commish. At the same time, it would not be right for me to stay silent as the Commish either when someone asks a question like this either.
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I don't think there's nefarious intent, but it shares a lot of characteristics with collusion and shouldn't be allowed IMO.
Plakata on
April 19, 2022 1:14 PM
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I'm generally anti-veto, which is why I'm trying to understand what I'm missing about the rules, which I think I am reading correctly. The issue is that a trade should involve each team giving and receiving something. Ellis's team is not giving up anything in this trade other than salary space, which is inherent in acquiring a player by any means. I'd argue that this transaction is essentially a procedural end-run around dropping a player and having him run through waivers.
Plakata on
April 19, 2022 1:13 PM
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Two suggestions: (1) Start a thread on the Otto community for this kind of trade. You will likely get some feedback from other players and likely Niv as well; and/or (2) The rules allow for the league to act to veto a trade that is viewed as decidedly unfair. You are free to vote positively or negatively on each trade. It is rare that a trade gets vetoed. I've played about 16 total Otto seasons and seen 1 or 2 trades vetoed. So its rare but it is in the rules (& of course always read the
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I thought there was a thread on this in to Ottoneu community but I can't seem to find it now. I do know that it was discussed on a podcast I listened to recently. I think it was a couple of weeks ago on the Pitcher List Keeper or Kut podcast. It is co-hosted by Chad Young, who writes a lot about Ottoneu on Fangraphs and was in with Niv at the very beginning of Ottoneu. My recollection was that he did not have a real issue with this kind of trade though each trade is unique on its own facts.
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Your understanding of Rule VI c. is incorrect. The i.e. in parenthesis which follows the statement is to give one possible illustration of the clear statement "Salary cap dollars can be traded between teams." The example was not meant to exhaust all possibilities of the statement or limit the exercise of the statement to that particular example. That is not what i.e. means. P. S. I play Ottoneu to get away from this kind of work stuff.
Quasi Muto on
April 19, 2022 12:17 PM
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I know I have only been here a one full season but I don't see the problem? Iorg gets a player. Quasi gets access to the full relief of the player contract and not just half that they would get if they had dropped the player. Seems fine to me. Jobs a good un'.
Nola Day on
April 19, 2022 11:52 AM
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The full text of that rule says: "Salary cap dollars can be traded between teams (i.e. team A can agree to count one half of a traded player's salary against their cap). However, these loans will not remain in place once the regular season ends". My understanding is that it's meant to cover loaning cap dollars as part of trade, which is not what is happening here.
Plakata on
April 19, 2022 11:40 AM
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Isotopes, you can find the Justification by clicking on "Rules" at the right of the green bar at the top of the screen. Look at Rule VI c. which states "Salary cap can be traded between teams."
Quasi Muto on
April 19, 2022 10:00 AM
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I don't know about circumventing. Quasi mentioned on his trade block that he was looking for cap space. This is a legitimate way to open it up.
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What's the justification for a trade where the other side gives up nothing? Isn't this just circumventing waiver/salary cap penalty stuff?
Plakata on
April 19, 2022 9:37 AM
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If anyone ne might be looking for a H2H Fangraphs points league, one team's owner had to back out of the drat that is scheduled for tomorrow at 6 pm Eastern due to an emergency. Team is in pretty good shape. League is going into it's 5 the year. Team has been paid for already so it's FREE to pick up but please be ready to manage the team, including tomorrow's draft.
https://ottoneu.fangraphs.com/962/team?team=6843
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Thanks really, but I should live with my mistakes. Not the first. Got the wrong Wander Franco once too.
Quasi Muto on
April 1, 2022 1:37 PM
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I would totally support a penalty free cut.
Nola Day on
April 1, 2022 11:23 AM
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Nbd, and I would be fine with you getting a penalty free cut, because he probably shouldn’t even be in the system, if others are willing
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oops.
Quasi Muto on
March 31, 2022 9:08 PM
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Just a heads up, that Eury Perez is the “wrong” one. I didn’t start the auction, but I’m assuming that someone is mistaking that Eury Perez for the “correct” (Ottoneu relevant) one which is already on my roster.
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i got kicked out of the draft room, whats up
Plakata on
March 28, 2022 8:06 PM
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My draft stopped loading...
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Auction draft starts at 8 p.m Eastern/5 p.m. Pacific today.
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Auction Draft is tomorrow, Monday, March 28 at 8 pm Eastern/5 pm Pacific.
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The Auction Draft is coming up fast! This is a further reminder that the Auction Draft is set for Monday, March 28, at 8 p.m. Eastern/5 p.m. Pacific.
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Draft is set for Monday, March 28, 8 p.m Eastern, 5 p.m. Pacific
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Thanks! Looking forward to it!
Bunt Cake on
March 13, 2022 5:22 PM
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Primarily you only get one free shot so make all your cuts at one time.
Pat Burrell on
March 13, 2022 4:58 PM
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Just claimed Bunt Cake. Looks like I need to make some cuts. Any special rules I should know about before I do that?
Bunt Cake on
March 13, 2022 4:57 PM
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Alright, let's go, let's go, let's go!
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I'm Central. I would prefer to wait. I am preparing for a long wait.
Quasi Muto on
March 1, 2022 8:50 PM
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I'm not too worried about when we auction relative to the lockout. But I will be pretty much unavailable Feb. 26 through March 5. Central time here.
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EST... Whatever the group decides, I'm ready to go now personally..
Poster Nutbag on
February 22, 2022 12:17 PM
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I’m on ET - on balance I’d prefer to wait, but I’m also fine if we decide to go sooner.
Wheat Kings on
February 19, 2022 10:34 AM
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East coast time. Indifferent about when we draft.
Plakata on
February 18, 2022 10:36 PM
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Potentially.
Nola Day on
February 18, 2022 8:45 PM
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2023?
Quasi Muto on
February 18, 2022 8:43 PM
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PST. I like a draft after lock out ends.
Nola Day on
February 18, 2022 8:41 PM
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