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The other thing we need to be in agreement on is what happens if this season does get started, and maybe even plays over half the season, and then gets cancelled. Niv has indicated the prize pool can just be carried over to the next season, and no champ be declared, which seems to me to be the right approach. Like, I’m not gonna argue that I’ve won if I’m ahead 40 games into a cancelled season.
Houck Trea on
July 8, 2020 4:11 PM
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Looks like we’ll arb as normal here. I’d rather just keep the cap rules as close to normal as well, so let’s go with $425 hard cap until Aug 14, which appears to be the 1/3 mark, at which point, luxury tax applies. Sounds like everyone is cool with just planning on last year’s luxury tax sidepot being shipped forward to 2021.
Houck Trea on
July 8, 2020 4:08 PM
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I would also vote normal arbitration here. Seems like this league is supposed to enforce "the spirit" of ottoneu, so I would think that means normal arbitration. Cap proration seems fine, but so does hard cap all year. I am increasingly in favor of rolling all side pots in both leagues to next year, even as a contending team in both leagues. I just don't see even a 60 game season going off smoothly.
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Over here I vote against arbitration; regarding the cap, for simplicity’s sake, with such a short season I’d vote for a hard cap with no loans, but if people don’t want to go there I’ll support a prorated system that someone else is willing to figure out and track during the season; regarding payouts, I vote for paying out 50% of the pot, rolling the remainder over to next season, and rolling all funds from last season over to next season.
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I'd go with pro-rate anything that's schedule-based and stick with regular rules for anything that's a pain to change or oversee. I'm fine with regular arb for this league. It's supposed to be a no-loopholes league, so regular arb seems like a good hard-to-handle challenge for everyone.
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As far as the cap limit schedule goes, makes sense to me we just pro-rate it, and since we are typically hard-capped at 425 until 1/3 of the season is done, we lift it this year after 20 games. So I guess until all teams have played 20? Figure we’ll wait for everyone to weigh in on arb and then count the votes on that part of it?
Houck Trea on
July 4, 2020 10:24 AM
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Over here I vote we arb as normal. I also propose we only play for the half of the side pot over here. We roll last years luxury tax and remaining side pot over to next year. I also think this years luxury tax should be 50% less and rolled into next year.
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Seems like we need to make some decisions concerning the dates of the salary cap and luxury tax, along with prize payouts. If hitch is dealing away contracts, we need to know how that works with the rules.
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Isolation is starting to get to me. Looking to trade Nick Madrigal and Jesus Sanchez for a low end, but useful player. Any interest?
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Shit, nevermind, momentarily forgot this is the league we can’t mortgage the future cause there’s a cap on what we can buy. Moving on to other conventional leagues where I see myself a contender...
Houck Trea on
March 31, 2020 7:51 PM
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So In this league I think I’m a favorite and am willing to sell future value for hypothetical 2020 points. Gonna go update my trade block thusly
Houck Trea on
March 31, 2020 7:48 PM
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Well we might as well find out.
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No
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Does anyone want at $17 Syndergaard?
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Anyone want a $33 Syndergaard?
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...er, ribs.
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Sounds like that’s already resolved. But yeah, he should have plenty of time. To heal the shoulder. Along with Hicks and Stanton. So much for my Tauchman pick. Damned early drafts.
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I don’t know how long it takes a lung to un-collapse, but he’s got a lot of time to heal before missing a game.
Houck Trea on
March 21, 2020 11:57 AM
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Time to cut bait and run
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Judge with a partially collapsed lung. That's a tad more concerning than a cracked rib.
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Big mistake. All this time off with Kate Upton and he is taking his groin out of commission?
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Verlander had groin surgery, out 6 weeks
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Judge and Verlander should be careful about covid in their frail states
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And no college world series
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I enjoy rooting against Duke, Kentucky , and Kansas
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Brackets and the field of 64 , the first two days especially, are one of the very best things in all sports
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I knew it was never going to happen but I was sort of hoping to see final-4 games played in an empty Mercedes Benz Stadium. I’m sure the dirty birds built a system to pipe in fake crowd noise when they need it; with some clever camera work maybe CBS could convince us everything was normal.
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The least they could do is quarantine the players for two weeks, then have a reboot of spring training, and start the season May 1, with no crowds. At least we could listen on the radio and watch on tv.
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My life is devoid of purpose :(
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Ha. Take that Dr. Drew. Maybe Judge and Verlander WILL be ready for opening day.
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When do folks think the season will actually start? June 1?
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Opening day delayed:
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/coronavirus-mlb-opening-day-delayed-at-least-two-weeks-spring-training-games-in-florida-arizona-canceled/amp/
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Grade 2 latstrains usually taking at least a month. Grade 3 strains often require surgery, however, and can come with considerably longer recovery periods. Oof, that sounds no bueno for Verlander.
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I'm waiting on Drew's update on Verlander
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Nails on a chalkboard , yet new yorkers love him
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Russo is possibly the worst person in sports media. He’s certainly in contention with Stephen A and Kellerman and Skip and everyone at BR or Fox, but I think he wins. He is unique in both his idiocy and grating voice; He brings absolutely nothing to the table.
Houck Trea on
March 8, 2020 4:56 PM
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Much as I admire what Pete accomplished , I'd still rather have Freeman if salaries were relatively close to each other .
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I’d shoot myself if the option was to listen to those guys.
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Also, Chris Carter? That seems like a cruel comp. Dude leads the league in HRs and his reward is the Brewers non-tendering him? I doubt that’s ever happened to anyone else. Wikipedia suggests he’s playing in Mexico, at least last year.
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Yes, clod at 1B, could be larger part of platoon with Dom. But that had nothing to do with his bat. Some examples from Met fan sites, one confident https://www.amazinavenue.com/2019/2/1/18201443/mets-top-25-mets-prospects-2019-1-1b-peter-alonso-new-york and one a little uncertain about the hit (not power) tool https://metsmerizedonline.com/2019/02/mmo-top-25-prospects-no-2-pete-alonso.html/ .
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You must not listen to Fransessa of Mad Dog Russo
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well, my office in Stamford is die hard Mets fans, who intesnly follow down to R league (they are still bitching about Kelnic to Seattle ). They told me he was a clod at 1b , and would platoon with Dominic Smith a year ago . Wasnt supposed to even make opening day roster
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You might have thought he was Trumbo, and I think actual scouts considered that a possible outcome, but I don’t think they thought it was necessarily likely. Two examples: https://www.baseballprospectus.com/prospects/article/48078/the-call-up-pete-alonso/ and https://blogs.fangraphs.com/top-25-prospects-new-york-mets/ .
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i sort of thought he would be like Chris Carter formerly of the Brewers , who also had raw power, enough to be NL HR champ in recent memory
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Myself and mostly everyone thought Alonso to be similar to Trumbo, Mark Reynolds etc..He never stopped mashing even when pitchers tried to adjust to him. He also worked his tale off to be s serviceable 1b , not a dh occupying the slot
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Why would Hilliard be a favorite to get more HRs than a full-time Adell? Or Zack Collins with full time at bats? Or your guy Jones? Or if you believe in PCL home runs, Kevin Cron? (Or the 4 or 5 other PCL guys who had more HRs/AB than Hilliard?)
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Brew, Alonso was an actual prospect, with 70/80 raw power. You’re right, no one predicted 50+, no one ever does. While 30+ was certainly a surprise in 2019, it wasn’t that surprising, that’s what that level of raw pop means. He was legendary for MiLB exit velocity. (No one talks about Hilliard like this, he’s more a 60 raw guy.) Alonso wasn’t a great prospect because he was a fringy 1B who might be DH only, but the bat wasn’t a question.
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It’s not just ABQ...they get to play most of their road games in SLC, Vegas, and El Paso. Here are the PCL home run leaders in 2019. Kevin Cron, 38 in 305 ABs, jesus.... (zips is a believer in him). http://www.milb.com/milb/stats/stats.jsp?t=l_bat&lid=112&sid=l112
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Plus you have to consider that the Rockies chronically and pathologically screw over their promising rookies...
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Well, yeah, ABQ is Coors+, and I’m sure that’s why his performance is being discounted in the projections, just saying the 35HR in 125 games is a lot and wasn’t something I was aware of.
Houck Trea on
March 8, 2020 12:45 PM
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